1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Bobby! 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Oh, my God! 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Is this how? 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,000 It was the fulfillment of a dream 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,000 seeing something go from nothing 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,000 to this massive home that I built. 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,000 I woke up to the sound what I thought were footsteps. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Who's there? 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Something's just grabbed the camera! 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Whatever it was, it was right there in front of me. 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,000 How could there be ghosts in my house? 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 It was brand new. 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Who's here? 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Who the hell is in this house with me? 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Is that you, Sharon? 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:07,000 The 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:12,000 The 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,000 The 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Back in 2002, I was working as a private investigator 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 and I was doing asset searches, 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,000 skip traces and finding missing persons. 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,000 But I was kind of tired of trying to find out 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,000 if husbands were cheating on wives and stuff. 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 I was suffering from tremendous burnout 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 and had to do something different. 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 It always been my dream to build a house with my father. 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 See, my father was a builder. 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Ever since I was a child, he had always been building houses 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,000 and the house that I was born and raised in 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000 was the house that he had built. 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,000 He found this lot in the LA Times-classified section 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 and he says, 33 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 It's ridiculous, David. 40,000. 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,000 And I was like, 40,000 dollars for the lot. 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Where is this in the middle of nowhere? 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,000 And he goes, no, it's up in Beverly Hills. 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 I was thinking, this is impossible. 38 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,000 40,000 dollars, the lots in this area are half million dollars and more. 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 40,000. 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Believe it. 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 He goes, here's the address. 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Dot, dot, dot, C.L.O. Drive. 43 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,000 It's right here. 44 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 I said, this is it. 45 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 You know, it's a great area. 46 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 It's up in the hills. It's like where I grew up. 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 It's very natural. 48 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 So I fell in love with the place. 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,000 At that point, my eyes drifted down to the end of the driveway. 50 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,000 And I'm thinking to myself, 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 where have I heard the name C.L.O. Drive from? 52 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 C.L.O. Drive from. 53 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,000 But I was hell bent on taking him up on the offer and building this house. 54 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,000 It was the fulfillment of a dream and seeing something go from nothing 55 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 to this massive home that I built with him. 56 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,000 There's just a sense of accomplishment. 57 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,000 I decided that I wanted to have a housewarming party. 58 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,000 You're listening to WKD Los Angeles is very young. 59 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,000 They like to entertain and I like to have friends come over. 60 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,000 So sit back, turn up the volume and don't touch that dial. 61 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,000 I hear a tap at the door. 62 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 I'm not expecting anybody for hours. 63 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 There was no one there. 64 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 And I go out suddenly look up and down the driveway. 65 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,000 When there's not a soul there, there's not a car, it's vacant, it's dead empty. 66 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:11,000 There are about 50 to 60 people hanging out and partying and having drinks and whatnot. 67 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 It was this great party, great people. 68 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,000 I always say that you can judge people by their friends, by the company they keep. 69 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,000 And this was just a great bunch of people. 70 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 The house was beautiful and I was impressed. 71 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 I can't believe he built it. 72 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,000 This house was amazing. 73 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Thanks. 74 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,000 I love it. 75 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,000 I love it. 76 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,000 I love it. 77 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,000 I love it. 78 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 I love it. 79 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 I love it. 80 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 I love it. 81 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,000 I love it. 82 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000 I love it. 83 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,000 I love the music. 84 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Thanks, thanks. 85 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,000 He has an open door policy that just makes you feel welcome when you come in. 86 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 I think he has a saying that says, come as strangers, leave as friends. 87 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 At one point I went into the kitchen. 88 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Something kind of caught my attention. 89 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Something kind of caught my attention. 90 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Something kind of caught my attention. 91 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Something kind of caught my attention. 92 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Something kind of caught my attention. 93 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,000 So, I didn't quite see who it was. 94 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 I just saw that it was a man with dark hair. 95 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,000 And I was trying to think, you know, I know a lot of people up at this party. 96 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 I don't know who that was that was walking by. 97 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,000 But it's not making any sense in my brain. 98 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:00,000 This window sits about 20 or 30 feet off the ground. 99 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,000 It's absolutely impossible for somebody to have walked by that window. 100 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Later that night, we were all upstairs, hanging out and partying. 101 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Jeff was over near the kitchen. 102 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,000 The glass of wine just came flying off the bar. 103 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:40,000 I saw it fly out. 104 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 There was nothing there. There was no one in the kitchen. 105 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,000 It was troubling at first, concerning to say the least. 106 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,000 I met David through a friend. 107 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,000 And when I first met him, I was kind of entranced by him. 108 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,000 I'm getting tired. 109 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Yeah? 110 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Yeah. I think I'm going to go up. 111 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,000 I mean, he was good looking and bigger than life, I guess. 112 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 You going to come up? 113 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 No, I'm going to watch the turtles. 114 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,000 I'll see you up there. 115 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Okay. Good night. 116 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 I decided to go to bed a little early. I had to be up early the next day. 117 00:08:46,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Over the last 10 years, its natural environment has been slowly decreased. 118 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:11,000 A little later on that night, I was drifting in and out, you know, at that almost asleep state. 119 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:22,000 I heard the door open. 120 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:35,000 I assumed it was David. 121 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,000 David? 122 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:42,000 He didn't say anything, which was weird. 123 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Someone was right there. 124 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 It was God. 125 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,000 It was really scary. 126 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Were you just upstairs? 127 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Were you just upstairs? 128 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,000 No. 129 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,000 I saw something or someone. 130 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,000 I don't know what to make of it. 131 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,000 There's something happening here and I'm not so sure I know what it is. 132 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 There was nothing there. 133 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,000 He seemed very affected by what I was telling him. 134 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,000 You bothered him? 135 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Being an ex-PI, this was important for me to understand what was going on. 136 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 This saw us in a job. 137 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,000 This was something as the old saying goes, it was something personal. 138 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,000 I had to figure out what was going on in my house. 139 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 I had to figure out what was going on in my house. 140 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,000 So I did some investigating and I started digging through the old newspaper articles 141 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 to see if there was anything that might give me an answer. 142 00:10:53,000 --> 00:11:00,000 I'm having to read through articles about murders and whatnot. 143 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,000 And then I came across one article that caught me totally by surprise. 144 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 I was surprised. 145 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 I was surprised. 146 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,000 I was surprised. 147 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 I was surprised. 148 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 It caught me totally by surprise. 149 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,000 And then it dawned upon me. 150 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Cieler Drive was in fact the location and the name of the street 151 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,000 where the Charles Manson murders had taken place some 30 years earlier. 152 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:46,000 I realized I was living near where this terrible murders had taken place. 153 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,000 But why would the Manson murders have anything to do with my house? 154 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,000 I mean, on four houses down the street from where the murders took place, 155 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 the house was torn down in 1992. 156 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 My house is brand new. 157 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,000 There's no physical connection between where these murders took place and my house. 158 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:23,000 That evening I invited my friend Jeff and Kashmir to come over to watch a movie in the theater room. 159 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:30,000 It turned out to be Planet of the Apes, which I've seen a million times, 160 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 but it doesn't matter. 161 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Just seeing it in somebody's home on the screen, sitting on a couch, it's wonderful. 162 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:43,000 We heard these voices coming from the intercom. 163 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 I'm sorry. 164 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Anyone there? 165 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:28,000 David goes up to the intercom to answer them, but they're not talking back to him. 166 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:35,000 It was just this quiet, constant talking. 167 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,000 I couldn't make out what they were saying. 168 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 They were just sort of talking to themselves. 169 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,000 It sounded like more than one person. 170 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,000 The intercom system works through the house. 171 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Who's there? 172 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,000 You have to be inside the house to use it. 173 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,000 So whoever it was was inside the house. 174 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Guys, stay here. I'm going to go check it out. 175 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:35,000 I slowly crept up the staircase. 176 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:45,000 I'm looking for somebody. I don't know who it is. 177 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:51,000 I don't know what it is, but there's somebody in this house, and I'm scared to death, to be honest with you. 178 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Let's go. 179 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,000 I'm hearing voices and footsteps inside the room. 180 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:27,000 I grabbed my rifle, my little .22 caliber rifle. 181 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,000 There's no one there. 182 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,000 David was still upstairs. 183 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,000 And the talking continued. 184 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:08,000 But it didn't just continue. It moved out away from the intercom. 185 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,000 And started moving into the room. 186 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:21,000 There was anguish and terror in the voices. 187 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000 Who could be talking? What is it? 188 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,000 And then it disappeared. 189 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,000 False alarm. 190 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,000 No, David. You missed it. 191 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,000 What? 192 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,000 There's no one in this house. This house is empty. 193 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000 There's no way. There's no way. 194 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Let me go check it out. You stay here with Karen. 195 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Sure. 196 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 The voices were so loud. 197 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,000 I'm walking up the stairs. 198 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 I'm making it to the second floor. 199 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000 And I hear something. 200 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,000 And it sounded like somebody had switched the radio on. 201 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:34,000 And then there's this raspy, you know, very labored breathing. 202 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,000 Like a death rattle. 203 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 I feel this blast of air. 204 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,000 And it just comes rushing out of me. 205 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 The thing goes right over my head. 206 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,000 And it heads up to the top floor. 207 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Everything that's going on now around me challenges everything. 208 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,000 That I ever believed or didn't want to believe. 209 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,000 And I didn't know what to make of it. 210 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 I don't know what's happening here. 211 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 I don't know why it is that I'm hearing voices. 212 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,000 My friends are hearing voices and footsteps and things. 213 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,000 What is happening here? I don't have any idea. 214 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,000 I've always been a skeptic. 215 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,000 So I'm not going to be a skeptic. 216 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,000 I'm thinking there has to be a physical, practical explanation for it. 217 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,000 David. 218 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,000 What's going on? 219 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:44,000 So I suggested to David that maybe we should start approaching this methodically. 220 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Let's start documenting this. Let's start experimenting. 221 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,000 This is camera one, day one in David's living room. 222 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,000 We laid the entire house out with the cameras. 223 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Hey, we are now moving into the living room. 224 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Camera two, the fireplace. 225 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,000 I don't believe in ghosts and stuff, but you know what I'm saying? 226 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,000 I'm curious as hell. 227 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Camera three, David's bedroom. 228 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,000 We have all this equipment. We're all excited. 229 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,000 And we're not really getting anything. 230 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Wait. 231 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,000 It just wasn't a successful investigation for the first few times. 232 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:40,000 But I know what happened to me and I had told some friends and they think I'm crazy 233 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,000 and I've got to capture this stuff on tape. 234 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Every couple of days, Jeff would show up and just take over the house. 235 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000 I started going up there more frequently thinking, 236 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 maybe I'll get something. 237 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Jeff started to get a little bit obsessed. 238 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,000 He's over there so much and I just started tagging along. 239 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Do you want to use the tripod or are you just going to do a handheld? 240 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,000 I'm going to do this one handheld, but set the tripod up. That'd be great for later. 241 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,000 And one night we were there late. 242 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,000 David was tired and he just fell asleep on the couch. 243 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000 There's no one else around. 244 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Panning from left to right. 245 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,000 Coming across to the night table. 246 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,000 And now we're at the bed. 247 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000 What's going on? What is that? 248 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,000 It's like something grabbing it. 249 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000 It's like he was wrestling with something. 250 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Somebody's grabbing the lens and pulling it down. 251 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,000 What's going on? What is that? 252 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000 It's like somebody pulled it. 253 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,000 It's like something grabbing it. 254 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000 It looks like something yanked him. 255 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,000 Who's grabbing it? 256 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000 It was just, it was crazy. 257 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000 I was so scared I didn't know what to do. 258 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,000 And then it just stopped. 259 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,000 He was really spooked and I just knew it was time to leave. 260 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Let's get out of here. 261 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,000 We were out of there. I don't even think we woke David up. 262 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,000 We're both exhausted. 263 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,000 The cashmere has to go to bed, 264 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,000 but I have to make sure that I got something on video. 265 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,000 So it's three or four in the morning. 266 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,000 I'm in the back of the house with my computer transferring the video. 267 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,000 From left to right. 268 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,000 And now we're at the bed. 269 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,000 I can hear something that sounds like talking, 270 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000 but it's so low in volume, 271 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,000 so I put the footage back and I start listening to it again. 272 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:38,000 It's very faint, and so I keep going back to see if I really heard what I heard. 273 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,000 You can't see anything on the video. 274 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,000 There's nothing there, but very clearly you can hear the voice. 275 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Jeffrey, don't shoot me. 276 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,000 And I just didn't know how to explain it. 277 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000 I'm sorry. 278 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,000 Later that evening I went to bed at 1.35 in the morning. 279 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,000 A couple of hours later in the middle of the night I woke up. 280 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,000 I woke up at 2.30 in the morning. 281 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,000 On one level I'm scared, 282 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,000 because when you live in a nice house and people's homes get burglarized, 283 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,000 burglars in this day and age usually carry a gun or some type of a weapon. 284 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000 I'm sorry. 285 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000 I grabbed my rifle. 286 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,000 I walked out my bedroom door looking out the hallway up and down. 287 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000 Who's there? 288 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,000 I'm sorry. 289 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:38,000 And I looked into the living room, looked around to the kitchen, I didn't see anything. 290 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,000 I had straight hearing sounds. 291 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,000 They were coming from the bottom floor, from the theater room. 292 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,000 I went downstairs to the third level. 293 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,000 And I'm blowing the rifle, I got the thing off the safety and I'm thinking, 294 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000 oh my god, I'm shaking, going okay? 295 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Who's here? Who the hell is in this house with me? 296 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,000 I could swear I turned the projector off at the end of the night. 297 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,000 It's like, oh, I must have been mistaken. 298 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000 I didn't know what to make of it. 299 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:04,000 But at that point I was so exhausted I just went up and went back to bed. 300 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000 I'm sorry. 301 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,000 But he just disappeared. 302 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000 It sounded like a bang, an explosion, a gunshot. 303 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,000 It was dark and there was nothing there. 304 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000 It was just perfectly normal. 305 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,000 The next day, Jeff comes over and he says, 306 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,000 David, David, I've got something, I've captured some stuff on some footage. 307 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000 It's impossible, it's incredible. 308 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 I'm going to go back to bed. 309 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:18,000 Finally gave me proof that there was physical evidence that there were ghosts in my house. 310 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:26,000 In a sense, I was really comfortable and happy to know that I wasn't going crazy. 311 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,000 After I saw this video footage and the gentleman standing there at the foot of my bed, 312 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,000 I kept on wondering who it was and what was happening in my house. 313 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,000 The fact that the Manson murders took place 150 feet down the street 314 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,000 was the only thing that I could come up with that could possibly be what was going on. 315 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000 I didn't have anything else to go on. 316 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Being an ex-PI, I even called up my friends at the East Los Angeles Police Department. 317 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Appreciate it. 318 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:17,000 I was brought a box over 2,000 file photos of the crime scene. 319 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Candid photographs of the victims on the front yard on the lawn. 320 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000 It wasn't a pleasant experience at all. 321 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000 But then I found this photograph. 322 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,000 That's the guy that I saw in the middle of the night. 323 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,000 It says Chase Sebring. 324 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,000 He was Sharon Tate's ex-fiancée and one of the victims. 325 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,000 I saw a flash, like a muzzle of a gun going off. 326 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,000 And then the sound that I heard afterwards was in fact a gunshot. 327 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,000 But why was he pointing towards the driveway? What was this all about? 328 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Maybe that related to Steven Pairn. 329 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,000 An 18-year-old high school student who was shot in his car. 330 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,000 This is now starting to add up. 331 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,000 And then I came across a full-body photograph of Sharon Tate. 332 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,000 She had just undialed the doll. She was becoming a name personality. 333 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000 She was becoming more and more of a public figure. 334 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:09,000 I thought to myself, maybe the voices on the intercom, footsteps that we heard in the house. 335 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000 And the voice of the woman on that video footage. 336 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:22,000 What if they were in fact the spirit of Sharon Tate trying to communicate with us? 337 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:38,000 I felt like I had come to the end of my rope of what I was capable of doing and understanding. 338 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000 Now I need to seek professional help. 339 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,000 I was able to go that evening. I simply got in the car and drove. 340 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,000 Now being from the East Coast, I really had no idea where I was going. 341 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:58,000 So, this is it. If you take a look around, I've got some work to do. 342 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,000 You can just kind of do whatever it is you do. 343 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,000 Alright? Thanks. 344 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,000 As I thought, if she doesn't know anything about the house, whatever she's experiencing in the house, 345 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,000 first hand will be genuine and organic to her experience. 346 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,000 I was left mostly alone upstairs in the living room area. 347 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:42,000 I was picking up a strange, strange brittle kind of energy, a harsh energy. 348 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000 It was something off-putting about the environment. 349 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000 And I couldn't put my finger on it. 350 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,000 It had gotten icy cold. 351 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:15,000 Almost to the point where if you breathe, you could see your breath. 352 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,000 I felt something. 353 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,000 That's how I saw her. Just walking through like she belonged there. 354 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:46,000 And I expected her in any moment to turn and look at me like another person in the house. 355 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000 But she didn't. She totally disappeared. 356 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000 And I knew that she didn't. 357 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000 I was just standing there. 358 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000 I was just standing there. 359 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000 I was standing there. 360 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:06,000 And I expected her in any moment to turn and look at me like another person in the house. 361 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,000 But she didn't. She totally disappeared. 362 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:18,000 And I started going down the stairs slowly looking to see where she could have gone. 363 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000 I'm okay. I'm okay. 364 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Do you have a girlfriend that's here? 365 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,000 Here, and I'm going... 366 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000 No. 367 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,000 She was... 368 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,000 Well, I just saw this woman pass by. 369 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000 And I said, who do you think it is? 370 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000 And she goes, I don't know. 371 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000 But if it wasn't somebody that you knew, then it was one of the spirits. 372 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000 I said, I don't know. 373 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000 I'm not sure. 374 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000 I'm not sure. 375 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,000 I'm not sure. 376 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,000 I'm not sure. 377 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000 I'm not sure. 378 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,000 I'm not sure. 379 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,000 I'm not sure. 380 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,000 I'm not sure. 381 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000 I'm not sure. 382 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000 I'm not sure. 383 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,000 I'm not sure. 384 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,000 I'm not sure. 385 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,000 I said, I think it's time for a seance. 386 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,000 I don't really put a lot of faith in seances. 387 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,000 I'm not big on the pretense of being able to speak and communicate with the dead. 388 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,000 But I thought, why not try this? 389 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,000 It's worth a shot. 390 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,000 Alma seems to know what she's doing. 391 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,000 She seems very together. 392 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000 If there is such a thing as a professional seance doer, 393 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000 she certainly seems to be that. 394 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,000 She has full control of the situation. 395 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,000 She has David shut and lock all the doors, the windows. 396 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000 I still think it's kind of silly at this point, 397 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000 but I'm supporting David. 398 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000 I'm there for him. 399 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,000 I'll give this a go. 400 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,000 I had never been to a seance before. 401 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000 This was my first seance. 402 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,000 And so I just didn't know what was going to happen. 403 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,000 All set? 404 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000 All good. 405 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000 I'm standing back with the camera, 406 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,000 and she has everybody hold hands. 407 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000 Everyone, let's hold hands, please. 408 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000 Whatever you do, we must stay connected. 409 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,000 No matter what happens, you have to stay connected. 410 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000 It's closer, Ice. 411 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000 Is anyone there? 412 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,000 What's happened? 413 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,000 Can you hear anything? 414 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,000 What? 415 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000 No, what's happening? 416 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,000 Yeah. 417 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000 The other two candles stayed straight up. 418 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,000 I asked, 419 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,000 Is that you, Sharon? 420 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,000 All the lights were out, 421 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,000 and the candle instantly went out. 422 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,000 It's okay, I got a knife. 423 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000 Don't break the hold. 424 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,000 That was the answer. 425 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,000 That was Sharon there. 426 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,000 She was there. 427 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000 Don't break the hold. 428 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000 Stay connected. 429 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,000 Stay connected. 430 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000 Don't break the hold. 431 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000 That kind of changed everything. 432 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000 It just became very intense. 433 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,000 Stay connected. 434 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,000 What the? 435 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,000 It's like the camera is moving on its own. 436 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Just like shaking his head with total disbelief. 437 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,000 And then I see cashmere. 438 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000 Something starts jiggling my chair. 439 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000 I was literally bouncing up and down. 440 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,000 She says, 441 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,000 Something just pushed my chair. 442 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,000 Stay connected. 443 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Stay connected. 444 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000 It's okay, calm down. 445 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,000 Calm down. 446 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000 Calm down. 447 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,000 Why are you here? 448 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Do you hear that? 449 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:45,000 It was the saddest, most heart-breaking sort of scream. 450 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000 And then, across the table, 451 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,000 I saw something happen to Alma. 452 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,000 She leaned forward and she was holding herself. 453 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,000 Smitter. 454 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,000 She stood up and she's clutching her stomach. 455 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Oh, David, what's wrong? 456 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,000 Smitter. 457 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,000 My stomach felt like something had gone through it. 458 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,000 Are you okay? 459 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,000 And it was so strong. 460 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000 Somebody help us. 461 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000 And it was so painful. 462 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,000 Are you okay? 463 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,000 And it was also really scary. 464 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000 I mean, what's going on? 465 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,000 What? 466 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Oh, God. 467 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000 I was being attacked. 468 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,000 No. 469 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000 Somebody help us. 470 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000 What are you doing? 471 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,000 What's going on? 472 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,000 What is it? 473 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,000 Oh, look. 474 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,000 Oh, it's helping. 475 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000 What? 476 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,000 She grabbed her abdomen, 477 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,000 she was grabbing her upper chest, 478 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,000 she was grabbing her shoulder blades. 479 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,000 Oh, God. 480 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,000 Oh, God. 481 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000 Oh, God. 482 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,000 This look came over, David. 483 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,000 What? 484 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,000 What is it? 485 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000 He said, she's being stabbed. 486 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,000 Oh, God. 487 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,000 Oh, God. 488 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,000 Oh, God. 489 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,000 Oh, God. 490 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Oh, God. 491 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,000 Oh, God. 492 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,000 Oh, God. 493 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,000 Oh, God. 494 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,000 Oh, God. 495 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,000 Oh, God. 496 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,000 Why did they stab me? 497 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,000 These fat boys. 498 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000 They sounded Dominic on the right side of the speech. 499 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,000 He was stabbed. 500 00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:19,000 After everything that happened on the Night of the Saiyans, 501 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,000 I started to realize we were having 502 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,000 a shared experience of the other victims that were killed 503 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000 down the street at the hands of Charles Manson 504 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,000 and his followers. 505 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000 Five persons including the actor Sharon Tate 506 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,440 and tainted interguests at 1-0-0-5 Oro C.L.O. 507 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,680 But my house was 150 feet from the where the murders took place, 508 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,920 so why my house? 509 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,360 Described by one investigator as reminiscent 510 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,240 to ever the crime scene and ran screaming to neighbors. 511 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:52,200 I started to think to myself, 512 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,120 maybe they were trying to escape the house 513 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,400 and run down the driveway and seek help from the neighbors. 514 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000 Maybe it's just the way things are. 515 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,000 Maybe things get looped somehow, 516 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000 and maybe we hear replays of things. 517 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,000 Are you here, Sharon? 518 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,000 Show us if you are by a sign. 519 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,000 My chair's going crazy right now. 520 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,000 I'm sure I destroyed something. 521 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000 I'm sure I destroyed something. 522 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,000 I'm sure I destroyed something.